Accused of delivering weapons, a South African leader reveals the truth in a tumultuous debate
Here we have a captivating story featuring the great leader Fikile Mbalula; former South African police minister facing a BBC journalist. In what can best be described as a “hard took” (animated exchange), the clever journalist tries to put pressure on the politician in order to drown him. It’s very fascinating to follow this conversation and see how the events unfolded.
The debate alludes to the misunderstanding between South Africa and the United States. Some time ago, the American ambassador accused South Africa of supplying arms to Russia. According to him, a ship had docked in South African ports and was carrying numerous weapons destined for Russia. However, this story was quickly refuted by the South Africans.
Questioned by the journalist, the leader reveals a willingness to over-accuse, highlighting the situation of Iraq, which was once accused by George Bush and the British Prime Minister of having concealed weapons of mass destruction, but has since suffered many casualties.
As a reminder, before invading Iraq, the American George Bush and the British Prime Minister at the time, Tony Blair, claimed to have information from their intelligence services that Iraq held weapons of mass destruction. They declared: “We are sure and certain that weapons of mass destruction exist. Either you come with us, or you’re against us.” That’s how they got involved in Iraq. Millions died in Afghanistan and Iraq. But we’ve never seen these weapons of mass destruction.
Many people are getting rich off the war in Ukraine
Throughout the debate, the journalist tries to confuse and confound him. In reality, what is happening between Russia and Ukraine is well known, and he wants to make it clear that the world is aware that this war between Russia and Ukraine is about money. If people really wanted peace, they would bring the parties together around a table to discuss and put an end to this war. Because there are clearly people who benefit enormously. They make a lot of money from Ukraine, whether through arms sales or reconstruction ventures. Obviously, rebuilding won’t be free – someone will have to pay for it.
What’s more, there’s a system currently being tested in Ukraine, the DIA, a digital system where everything is recorded, from documents to passports to banking transactions, all linked to your face. For the time being, Ukrainians use it for shopping and travel. So there’s a system that’s backed by an international organization, with the aim of testing it as a laboratory and seeing how it works there, so as to eventually implement it worldwide.
Fikile Mbalula, an excellent leader and role model
Fikile Mbalula Secretary General of the ANC, Nelson Mandela’s political party
The world doesn’t like to hear truths. But Fikile Mbalula wanted to pass on an important lesson. He is a student of Nelson Mandela, and although Nelson Mandela himself is no longer with us, the ideology remains the same: the fight for freedom. You can’t tell us how to work, how to live. He defended himself by saying that the American ambassador had apologized for his statements, at least for the lack of respect for necessary diplomatic protocols. The gentleman was almost contradicted. Secondly, he said it wasn’t up to them to decide whether they should condemn Putin or not. Because there are people, clearly, like Tony Blair and George Bush, who have done atrocious things. They accused Iraq, at the time, of possessing weapons of mass destruction, and millions of people lost their lives. But we’ve never seen these weapons of mass destruction. And no one asked the International Criminal Court to arrest them. So there’s no need to impose their will.
It should be noted that South Africans are very different individuals. There’s no fear. If you say something disturbing, it doesn’t bother anyone. Just as there are no secret security cells or fear of offending the president, because there is the rule of law. I think this is due to the fact that South Africa was liberated rather late, in 1994. They have not lost their link with the rule of law, with masculinity. For other countries, like Congo, Senegal or Cameroon, it’s a different story. Perhaps because those who really fought for their country’s liberation did so in the 60s. They were old-timers. They’re the strong ones. These young people are totally weakened, timid and frightened. We need to maintain a certain identity and avoid being swept along by all kinds of doctrinal winds.
Congratulations to the Secretary General of Nelson Mandela’s political party, the ANC, Mr. Mbalula, who openly showed his level of respect on the show. Because generally speaking, when you’re exposed on this type of show, you’re very well prepared. But you can see the political maturity in his words, the way he refuses to switch from left to right. This is also the new spirit, the Afro, perhaps Anglo-Saxon spirit. Unlike the French, who have a more hierarchical structure with a supreme leader, it’s impossible to openly disagree, as there are too many protocols. With English speakers, it’s a different story. Typically, we say, “No, I don’t agree, sir. Here’s why.” There’s no supreme leader or excessive protocols. We need people like him, with ideas like his. How can South African youth not be strong with leaders of this stature who can express themselves openly, without insulting anyone! It’s simply a matter of reframing the debate on an intellectual level.
Totally inspired by Zack Mwekassa’s video
